Posts by Must obey!

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My Husband found out about this site...

by cognac in

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i told him that i have no intention of leaving.... he told me that i was like "a dog returning to its vomit"... .

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JW's love to pull out that harsh scripture. It's about all they can say to people who leave the organisation. The other one is "get behind me Satan." A long time friend said that to me recently, the asshole.

Don't let it get you down....

Here's what you need to do: Just quote to your (loving) husband the scripture in Isaiah 28:18 where Jehovah tells his people that their tables are full of of filthy vomit. When he tries to say that this only applies to Christendom, point out to him that if Jehovah's Witnesses are God's name people that houses "spiritual Israel" then how on earth could it apply to Christendom since they have never housed any of the anointed! He won't be able to deny that. Tell him that therefore this prophecy must mean today that Jehovah is disgusted with many aspects of HIS OWN PEOPLE, like he was back then with his OWN PEOPLE the ancient Israelites. Then tell him what aspects of his own people today does he think Jehovah would be similarly disgusted by as he was with his ancient name people? When he says he has no idea, let him know that websites such as this reveal all of the filthy vomit in the organisation that 99% Jehovah's Witnesses deny exists and are afraid to find out about!

You go girl!

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Why won't South Park parody the Witnesses

by joelbear69 in

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is it because jehovah is protecting his people from this?

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Cause they already did the Mormons and in most people's eyes there ain't much difference...they're both brainwashed, obnoxious pests who come a knocking on your door.

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Barbara Anderson's Comments from her CD compilation now online!

by Dogpatch in

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barbara anderson's comments from her cd compilation:.

secrets of pedophilia in an american religionjehovah's witnesses in crisis.

update 1/17/08: barbara anderson has released her nearly 100-page commentary found on the cd, secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis, for general distribution.

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Awesome! Let's hope the Watchtower gets rocked even harder by another massive court action. I think it will only take one more big case with accompanying media exposure to really get the ivory Tower wobbling & ready to fall. It's about the only thing that will do it.

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Can the WTBTS change 1914 and survive?

by jefferywhat in

the society has changed equally as big doctrines in the past, but could this end the illusion?

i have read a lot of leolaia posts and have seen the attempt of scholar to counteract however unconvincingly.

im not after conspiracy, im after fact, could they move the end of the gentile times to 1934/35?

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Your after fact, about whether the Society could shift from one bogus date to another? I think you mean you are after solid speculation?

Yes, they can practically do anything they like and as long as the sheeple remain spellbound by the notion that the GB are a modern day version of the first century apostles & older men, the Tower will get away with it.

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What Bible do you use?

by OMG! Now What? in

in my new search for truth, i'm back to my old routine of getting my 7+ different bibles out and comparing them all.

which one have you chosen, if at all, and why?

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I detest all old Shakespearean style English bibles. This is the 21st fckn century!!!

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Why does the WBTS keep confusing 'rulership' with 'kingdom'?

by Must obey! in

i get annoyed at how the society keeps harping on about how 'the kingdom' of god is actually a heavenly governmental rulership, made up of 144,000 & christ.

for example, this quote in the study article about god's sovereignty just reviewed:.

"a sovereign generally exercises his authority through an agency that is placed over his subjects.the kingdom of god, therefore, is an expression or exercise of god's universal sovereignty toward his creatures, a means or an agency used by him to carry out his rulership.".

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Gosh...was there no one else interested in this topic?

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Why they cant change!

by jefferywhat in

they cant change this as it helps them keep jesus in a subservient position.

this is one of the strangest policies of the wt, why would jesus be the "angel" that dragged the jews around the wilderness?

i wonder if this idea of michael being jesus came out around the same time that jesus was no longer worshipped ( 1950's) anyone know?

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They could easily change the blood policy to make it a conscience matter, but they won't because they will get their asses sued to kingdom come. The lawyers would never let them.

They can't entirely abandon the 1914 doctrine because, as you imply, it is so intimately linked to their 1918 spiritual inspection & appointment creed, whereby their derive their authority to lord it over God's 'household'.

However they can easily change what 1914 means by simply dropping some major events that are pegged to the date. They could easily spin it to say that 1914 is still the beginning of the last days (because WW1 started then) and the 'composite sign' has indeed been in evidence since 1914, but that Jesus did not return then and his parousia did not start then...they can simply move those things forward and say Jesus' installation as King and the coming of the Kingdom are all future, starting from the GT. Jesus didn't have to become king since 1914 to have inspected the Watchtower Society and appointed them; they can easily separate the two in the minds of most of their loyal devotees. That way they can stick with their 1914-1919 chronology & retain their authority but abandon their ridiculous teaching that Jesus was installed as King then. Most of the rank and file would marvel at this 'new light', because it is in fact a lot more reasonable than the current absurd position. Most would remain devoted Watchtowerites even after such a big change. The pressure will definitely be on to have a fresh look at all this in a couple of decades, or even earlier..

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News from Mother ship

by jefferywhat in

1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.

2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.

was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.

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If true, it is just legal manoeuvering. The Society's lawyers are hatching schemes to try and protect the Society for more expensive litigation, that's all.

Very heartening to hear that a top level apostate may exist, especially if it is a GB member. If a GB member was to resign or be removed for apostasy it could cause a lot of damage at a sensitive time for the organisation. They could cause massive damage like Ray Franz did if they went public.

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JWs teach Jesus is not their Mediator....see WT article!!

by Lady Liberty in

hello friends,.

many while jws, (myself included) were not aware that the organization teaches that jesus is the mediator for the 144,000 only!

i was so shocked to learn this, and i thought i would post this for all the newbies and lurkers.

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This is rather old news for most on here, but it is always good to read this again and be reminded of it. The Watchtower idol most certainly is preaching something beyond what the apostle Paul and other apostles taught (Galatians 1). An offensive twisting of the plain scriptural truth that ALL genuine Christians are all one sheep with one shepherd in the same pen, all in the new covenant, and all having Jesus their shepherd as their master and mediator. Shame on the WBTS!

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Questioning the 144K

by OMG! Now What? in

i've been considering the teachings of the 144k by the borg and am wondering why they allow women to partake especially considering revelation 14:4 which pretty much says the 144k are men who are virgins.

have any of you given this any thought?.

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Cuz it's just symbolic language being used there...nearly all of Revelation is symbolic. It doesn't literally mean they are all virginal men.